This isn’t your typical divorce story.

In this eye-opening conversation, high-conflict divorce strategists Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry explain what happens when divorce becomes a weapon — and the family court system becomes the battlefield.

Their clients are often accomplished, emotionally intelligent, and deeply empathetic — and that’s exactly why they were targeted. Legal abuse isn’t random. It’s calculated. And it often continues long after the relationship ends, through false accusations, dragged-out custody battles, and endless court filings.

Lisa and Chris have lived it. And now, through Been There Got Out, they help others survive it — with strategy, documentation, and a fierce return to self-trust.

If you’ve ever heard “just move on” but you’re stuck in a legal nightmare with someone who won’t let go, this episode is for you. We talk about how to protect your peace, why staying “for the kids” can backfire, and how to rebuild when the system feels rigged against you.

This is the roadmap for anyone navigating high-conflict divorce — especially when the damage goes beyond the relationship and into your freedom, your finances, and your sanity.

Guest Bios

Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry are high-conflict divorce strategists and the founders of Been There Got Out, a vital resource for people entangled in abusive, high-stakes custody and divorce battles. Their clients aren’t just overwhelmed—they’re often up against ex-partners weaponizing the legal system, and many end up representing themselves (pro se) just to survive.

Through their coaching programs, podcast, weekly Legal Abuse Support Group, and their signature course series From Fear to Fierce in Family Court, Lisa and Chris teach people how to navigate the system without losing themselves in it.

Lisa is a legal force with lived experience—successfully representing herself in dozens of court appearances, including the appellate court, where her case became legal precedent in Connecticut. She was instrumental in the passing of Jennifer’s Law, expanding legal recognition of coercive control in domestic violence.

Chris is a certified high-conflict divorce coach with a background in finance, marketing, and tech. He co-created the Been There Got Out podcast and is developing a course on high-conflict parenting plans. Chris brings calm, clarity, and strategy to situations where chaos reigns.

Get in Touch with Been There Got Out

Website: https://beentheregotout.com
Instagram: @been_there_got_out
Facebook: Been There Got Out
Podcast: Been There Got Out (available on all major platforms)
Book: Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High-Conflict Divorce, and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances

Special Offer for Listeners

Want to take the first step toward reclaiming your power? Download a free chapter of Lisa and Chris’s book, Been There Got Out, and explore free tools and resources to help you navigate high-conflict divorce.

Visit: https://beentheregotout.com and look for the free chapter offer on their homepage.